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Update, 6/16: I wasn’t able to link my AMEX card with my existing Qantas account, so I transferred points from AMEX to a new Qantas account. Despite not getting bonus promo email on the new account, it still got the extra 20% bonus today, for a combined 44% bonus!
Commenters are also reporting that you can add a “000” before your Qantas number in case you have problems linking your Qantas account with AMEX.
Did you get your additional bonus?
Originally posted on 6/13:
2 weeks ago we broke the news that AMEX points could be transferred to Qantas points.
Last week we broke the news that you could get a 20% transfer bonus from AMEX to Qantas.
Multiple DDF members are reporting that in addition to the instant 20% bonus for transferring AMEX points to Qantas, Qantas is adding another 20% on top of the transfer amount a day later.
DDF member NJDevil transferred 61K AMEX points on Qantas on 6/10 and instantly got 73,200 Qantas points after the 20% transfer bonus. Qantas then added another 20% bonus of 14,640 points the next day. He got 87,840 Qantas points from the 61K AMEX transfer, an effective 44% transfer bonus!
Many of members reported the same experience with Qantas adding a 20% bonus on top of the AMEX 20% bonus.
I got an email from Qantas saying that they would add an additional 20% within 48 hours of transfers from AMEX, which makes it seem like this is a separate promotions from the AMEX 20% transfer bonus.
It’s unclear if getting both promotions is intentional or not. Officially Qantas says that promotions can’t be stacked, though that is not always enforced.
There is no need to be targeted for these promotions, though Qantas may stop awarding the extra 20% bonus. Qantas can also claw back the extra 20% bonus should they feel like it.
Of course many members have also been targeted for a 15%-30% transfer bonus after making their first transfer, though those points aren’t expected to post until July. We’ll have to see if that will stack on top of these promotions as well.
This is amazing for travel to Israel as Qantas has a fantastic award chart for travel on El Al.
54.5K AMEX points will transfer into 78,480 Qantas points after the 44% bonus, which is more than enough for the 78K points needed for a one-way business class flight between NYC and Tel Aviv in business class!
Want to earn Qantas points from AMEX cards?
AMEX cards with transferable Membership Rewards points include:
Clawback?
They sent out an email about the 20% promo separately from the AMEX 20% promo.
Anything is possible, but I don’t think they’ll clawback.
I have been trying to transfer from amex to qantas for the last 3 days, but have been having issues. Has anyone else experienced this? They claim because my frequent flyer number is 7 digits rather than 10. Thoughts?
I had the same problem and have been waiting. I opened a new Qantas account and was able to transfer right away.
And then you just transferred all your other points over to your new one?
You can contact any airline to merge multiple accounts for the same person.
Can I merge my wife’s united account with my account as well if its 2 different names ?
no
I had the same problem but added 3 leading zeros to my number and then it worked
Did you create it with all the same info? Is Qantas okay with that?
I did. You can call and merge the accounts if you want to.
But try Robert’s solution and see if that works.
I havent been able to link my Qantas account to Amex MR. I called and they were not able to figure it out, made a ticket to look into it. Anyone else have this issue?
See comment above.
would you recommend transferring miles (about 350K) if i dont have any current trip planned? eventually i will fly to IL but nothing now
No. Never transfer points unless you have short-term plans to use them, say within 6-12 months.
Big question is: Can we expect clawback from Qantas?
I’d be surprised if they do that, but you can always http://www.ask8ball.net/
Can I merge accounts with different names too ?.
no
Can I transfer amex delta sky miles to quantas?
No.
No
54.5k is enough
Dan are Qantas miles a good value on any other partner airlines/routes/classes?
My account shows
https://www.screencast.com/t/Uin5fIAro8
Does that mean I will get 40% bonus ?
Everyone is getting the 44% bonus so far.
I transferred 500 Amex points on June 1st and got 500 Qantas points – no bonus at all
I now see it in my Amex account that the dates are from June 5th so maybe I did it too early. Would speaking to customer service help? Also, I only have 53,000 Amex points left at this time. Is it worth it to transfer more to get another couple of hundred points or should I just leave it? Also, if I need two tickets for the winter but only have enough points for one ticket, what’s the likelihood that I can get a second ticket on that flight thru Chase with my chase ultimate rewards points?
IF Qantas adds another 20%
What’s the point of this post? to get it killed/clawed back?
The point is for more people to be able to take advantage of it. As everyone got it and it was on DDF with many data points, it’s only a matter of time until every site writes about it.
Hopefully Qantas takes the high road here.
They may take the high road now but then devalue their miles next week!
How much are the fees?
Minimal on El Al: https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/heres-take-advantage-fantastic-qantas-values-travel-el-al-comparison-chart-redeeming-qantas-points-versus-el-al-points/
Q is whether to transfer more now
How do I know if I am targeted ?
The stacking 44% aren’t targeted promotions.
Ye. This post def ups the chance of this getting clawed no?
This post? No.
It was already discussed openly on DDF and considering that it has worked for everyone it’s only a matter of time until it made it to every blog.
Does every blog really check out DDF?
The good ones do and post plenty from there. Once one mainstream one posts they all do.
“It’s unclear if this is intentional or not, though officially Qantas says that promotions can’t be stacked.”
I’ll clarify for you dan as you seem to be new to this. ITS A GLITCH
But as you long as you get clicks, nothing else matters.
I’m not convinced that it is a glitch. I got an email saying that Qantas will add 20% within 48 hours of the transfer. Considering that AMEX adds the points instantly, it does seem like a separate promotion.
Whether those promos should stack is up for debate, but I don’t think this will be clawed back.
Time will tell.
A) not all accounts have received the 20% glitch
B) its clearly not stackable as the T&C’s explicitly mention in the email you were quoting from.
C) People were speculating how the QF system will detect the 20% bonus given on amex’s end to exclude them from the 15/20/30% tiered promo. Although it is safe to say that any amex transfers done during the promo timeframe would have been excluded vrs transfers from TYP/Cap1/Foreign amex, it is now, with qantas mistakenly crediting the 20% on behalf of amex, crystal clear for the system to exclude accounts from stacking the other promo.
D) Fake news
E) I really need to get a day Job.
1. I haven’t seen any reports of recent transfers that didn’t get the 44%.
2. If I did everything by the Ts and Cs then I wouldn’t have much at all.
Either way, this was in the public domain and was going to make it to other sites either way. Hopefully this way DD readers can take advantage of it first.
y u so salty
excuse me! dan is usually much more careful and cautious making sure things are accurate then someone like doc, i have ran into issues using his website, but never dansdeals. jump in a lake!
Is this targeted or is working for everyone since my amex account shows 20% bonus only?
Read the post again.
I’ve read all the posts but I still don’t understand how I can purchase round trip el al tickets from quantas for lax to Tel Aviv
I don’t see an option to transfer to Qantas on my Amex portal
US card?
Found it never mind
Is this happening only for the first transfer to Qantas or are people getting it even having transferred in the past?
Does transferring points extend the expiration?
Yes.
How much whould the TAX be from NYC to Tel Aviv in Business class & Premium Economy with Elal Using qantas points?
Should be around $10.
No! that is the tax for Economy, however premium & business is $28.20 for NYC to TLV.
Flight Out
Itinerary
From
To
Flight
Travel Class
Reward Type
Baggage * US DOT baggage modal
Flight Out Tue 12 Nov 19
16:50
New York (JFK)
Duration: 10h 20m
10:10 Wed
Tel Aviv
Stops: 0
Flight operated by El Al Israel Airlines LY2 Business Classic Reward This will open a new tab or window in your browser.
Per Adult : 2 pieces
LY = Flight LY2 is operated by El Al Israel Airlines
* El Al Israel Airlines Baggage Allowance applies to your itinerary. Does not include any applicable additional allowances eg frequent flyer these will be shown on the confirmation page.
Change Flights
Important Information
Flight operated by El Al Israel Airlines Flight Operated by El Al Israel Airlines
Terminal Information
Qantas flights QF1 – QF399 depart from International Terminals. All other Qantas flights depart from Domestic Terminals.
Total Amount
Points available79,500Number of seats1
Qantas Points & Cash
Trip Price for – 1 x Adult: 78,000
Total Trip Price: 78,000
Points required 78,000
Points balance after this booking 1,500
Card Payment * $28.20 (USD)
Was $9.60 in business when I checked previously:
https://i.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/30115449/ly2.png
Is there a tax breakdown?
It could be an illegal tax collection: https://paxex.aero/2019/06/lufthansa-fine-frequent-flyer-reward-tax/
I see you have checked it under points and cash. I booked just points. Could that be the difference?
This is definitely illegal, displaying one price and charging more
if i pay the tax with chase sapphire reserve while booking with amex points, will that give me the insurance benefits?
Yes.
Before I paid for the Antarctica trip of a lifetime (thanks Dan), I checked with Chase about coverage. They told me that their coverage is up to $10,000 for trip purchases booked through Chase. IOW, if I wanted to pay for airfare with AMEX, for example, Chase would not cover me for those charges. I recommend that you check with Chase.
thanks dan for all your help all your posts have helpmy family to get a great understanding how to best utilize points for airfare tickets. Does quantas accept chase rewards? if not, have you heard if they will in the future?
p.s. please send regards to mendy your brother. i was zoiche to be his rebbe in HAC 5th grade almost 20 years ago!
Not currently:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/
How much for RT Business NYC-TLV, 150K Miles?
78K+78K=156K Qantas points.
How many MR points do I need to equal that?
108,500
I want to go to israel in 14 months. Transfer now? Or wait?
When will you be ready to book?
In about 6 months
Same.. transfer now?
i transferred in 500 points earlier today to get targeted and then transferred out another 116,000 an hour later do you think i risked getting the extra 20 percent directly from qantas?
is the additional 20% from quantas need the email offer being sent to my email or without it , it works?
Works either way, for now.
My transfer was not instant and I have a 10 digit Qantas number. Tried logging in and out of my account multiple times
Try toggling between the Qantas US and Australia site.
Thanks. I see them now b”h! So now I have to wait until tomorrow or the day after to get the other 20% added and then book? Can I book some seats now using the points already there and they will add the 20% to the original amount of points transferred for me to book the remaining seats? Or better to wait until all are in there and book all together? Sorry if this confusing.
I would book what you have now, but you might not get the same flights available for the rest of the tickets. You do run the risk of losing availability, either way.
Is there good use of Qantas to fly domestic in the us (or to Canada)?
Yes. Also they don’t charge a last minute booking fee
The tax difference between the $9.60 & $28.20 is $18.60 which is the US International Departure Tax for all revenue tickets departing the United States. But the US tax law does not require the payment of that tax on frequent flyer tickets.This info from the Lufthansa news link that you provided. That is probably the reason for the tax difference.
Correct, as I speculated above, it’s probably being collected illegally. Eventually people will complain to the DoT about being overcharged.
I booked 2 tix Quantas NYC-TLV in premium and was charged $188 or so taxes. So yo saying that was wrong???
You didn’t book on LY, did you?
No, on Quantas
Yeah but not to fly on LY as LY wouldn’t be $188 in fees
I was charged 151.48 for two tickets on LY thru Qantas.
RT biz NYC-TLV is $94 per person. His numbers are accurate.
I guess the safest route would be:
Transfer
Get bonus
Book ticket immediately and drain Qantas account
In case of clawback, I’ll leave this account in a negative and open a new Qantas account.
Is Amex Marriott bonvoy points transferable?
Sure. 60K=25K Qantas.
Careful: in my experience it took a couple weeks to transfer. WEEKS.
#Bonvoyed
Is Amex Marriott bonvoy transferable?
How many Qantas points is it from NYC to Australia in coach and business? Good option relative to others? Thanks
Does anyone know what the redeposit fees are? are tickets able to be canceled up to the flight?
5000 points per passenger, plus 8000 points service fee because you have to call in to change it. I got the 8000 points fee waived, though.
I’ve changed online. But it’s buggy and not always accurate availability
Interesting. Was it on Elal? Because my reservation had a please call to make any changes when I logged in.
wow just checked my Qantas account and i see two days ago they added the 20% bonus to my account. I would not have known without your post. Thanks Dan!
@Dan Thanks for all your great posts. I think it be helpful to add to the post the nymber of Amex points needed for an economy ticket. It is 29,167 for each way.
I was charged 151.48 for two economy plus/economy LY tickets on Qantas website.
I transferred but it is not immediate, nor do i get any error from amex. what to do?
https://www.dansdeals.com/blank/hot-qantas-posts-44-amex-transfer-bonus-will-get-even-points-fly-el-al-business-class-nyc-tel-aviv-55k-points-no-fuel-surcharges/#comment-1410967
Thanks – even after toggling, no transfer appears at all. I dont think i made any mistakes, same account as have used before.
would it help to contact amex, but they may just see what i see, that they have been sent.
Tried logging out and in a few times and toggling?
ok just came in bh thanks
can i transfer both in citi and amex into one qantas to take advantage of all the promotions?
should i be concerend that i did not get the email?
meaning the same email that you got telling me i would be gettign 20 percent more on what I spent
if i enroll in the 15-30% email after i transfer between 6/1 and 6/30 can i still be eligible to receive that bonus to if everyone gets it? i transferred everything first adn only clicked enroll on the email afterwards.
When did Qantas last devalue the award chart?
What is availability like on El Al in biz from NYC to TLV using Qantas points?
@Dan is there a post about using Qantas points besides flying to Israel
Can I transfer my Amex points to a friends Qantas account or does it have to be the same person who owns the Amex?
Do you need to sign up for the promotion is it automatic? Right now im seeing with amex 500 points transfers as 500?
Points expire in 18 months, is there anything I can do to keep them longer? Any work arounds?
Transfer in 500 Amex points when you are close to expiration to reset the 18 months
Amex has the 40% bonus for transfers to BA again
From where else besides Amex and Citi can you transfer points from
Did anyone that transferred yesterday (6/13) get the additional 20% from Qantas today (6/14)? I haven’t gotten it yet so I was wondering if it will still post or they caught the glitch and are no longer giving it.
It took my account at least 5 days to get the extra 20%
I am waiting as well
Also waiting.
Also waiting
is there a way to book on Qantas 2 tickets when only one is available?
Maybe I’m going about this the wrong way but nobody ever responds to my questions. Can someone please advise me?
I transferred 500 points in June 1st. Then I saw in the Amex site that the dates for the 20% bonus are from June 5th so maybe I did it too early. Would speaking to customer service help?
Also, I only have 53,000 Amex points left at this time.
1. Is it worth it to transfer more to get another couple of hundred points or should I just leave it?
2. if I need two tickets for the winter but only have enough points for one ticket, what’s the likelihood that I can get a second ticket on that flight thru Chase with my chase ultimate rewards points?
1. Transfer from where to where?
2. Flights available for cash are usually available to book through Chase UR and you can use points to pay for that flight.
Perhaps you should head over to the DD forums and pose your questions there and you will get a better response rate.
I transferred points from Amex to Qantas
I received the 20% from the Amex transfer but still not the additional from Qantas. Transferred Wed night (Israel time) and just checked Sat night (Israel time) with no bonus!
Same here. Transferred around 3:45 pm Wednesday and I just checked now more than 48 hours later and there is no additional 20% from Qantas :(.
Sorry make that Thursday 6/13 but either way more than 48 hours have passed
Took up to a week for the additional bonus to post. No guarantees of anything of course.
Took 72 hours for me for them to post when I transferred 06/09 and then Qantas bonus came in 06/12. Transferred more 6/13 and 6/14 and waiting for them to post. I will update as soon as they post
I just transfered 150k points to qantas on thursday. I got 20% bonus from amex, but I still didn’t get the 20% bonus points from qantas. Is the promotion over? Or maybe i have to wait a little longer.
I see lots of people that are writhing that their points didn’t post, well mine just posted,
Sat 15 Jun 2019
CARD TRANSFER BONUS 16-JUN-2019
12,960
Thu 13 Jun 2019
AMEX MR 14-JUN-2019
64,800
originally transferred 54k on 6/13
I transferred mine on Friday and the bonus posted today.
I still keep getting an error message telling me to call MR Customer Service when I try to link Qantas to my AMEX MR account.
Try opening a new Qantas account.
Transferred on Thursday and my bonus 20% came in last night. BH!
Transferred on Thursday and bonus came through last night. BH!
Just checked again! Got it! Transferred 250,000 miles Wed night and received 300,000. Now balance is 360,000!!!! Yea!
Awesome!
I need a flight to Israel in 3-4 months want to fly economy how many Amex points should I transfer to be safe?
I didn’t get both, only one
Not sure what u mean by that
Posted this morning
Thanks @Dan
My bonus points posted last night! Thanks Dan!
Mines just posted as well, can I transfer again and get the 44% bonus ?
mine posted
elal biz 787 here we go again!
thanks dan!
@Dan
El Al trip report coming?! (Or are you planning a trip to Australia….?)
I opened a new quantas account on Tuesday and transferred exact amount of points needed for round trip business elal ticket Nyc-tlv (130,000=156,000) and booked the ticket hours later because I saw availability the day that I needed it. I now just got 31,200 extra quantas points! (I wish I waited until bonus came in but it was still a much better deal than the economy plus delta I was going to book with the same amount of Amex points) thanks dan!!!
just curious how would you have booked the econ plus delta on which program?
What other good uses are there for Qantas points besides Isreal (over using BA etc)
does it pay to get the quantas/amex credit card?
120k points after 3k spend
Is that product available in the USA?
dan a personal question, but what would you use them for if not for israel flights, and how much did you transfer? did you transfer a little just to test or alot for a reason? if so, what for? would other dates open up and close like united? or once dates are closed they close?
I couldn’t login thru the website some technical difficulties, but called qantas clicked 2 and and had the automated system tell me my points balance. thank you Dan now do you think if it is stack able with the 15-30% bonus would it even work if you clocked the email after you already made the transfer. retroactive?
anyone know where ahole ben ahole went? Ich hob nisht gehert fun ehm.
got the bonus; Thanks Dan
Mine posted 44%
can i use qantas points for flights on el al around the middle east e.g. to jordan, egypt, or cyprus?
also, how esy is it to use them to book flights on american airlines?
I tried posting on my desktop but it looks like it didn’t go thru. If it is showing here twice I appologize.
I’m trying to book with quantas (award ticket using elal) and for the dates I need are showing outgoing only from ewr & the return only to JFK. Is there any way around this? Any chance that elal would make a change after z confirmed booking?
Can I transfer united points to Qantas?
Qantas posted my additional points!! Thank you!
Thanks Dan, booked a ticket in mid July for 58,500 AMEX points. Cash price is over $2000.
How much is an economy ticket round trip to IL
Transferred points on Thursday the 13th, just got them today. Was checking every few hours.
Now I’m having difficulty booking tickets. Taxes being charged are $96 per person, but even then the flight I’m trying to take is only available if I’m booking for one person. There are two of us flying. If I change the search to have 2 adult passenger, most El Al flights are not shown and the only return flight available is Air Jordan. Then taxes and fees also go up to $458, crazy. Can someone advise, please? Trying to fly Chicago to Israel, Sep 14-29. Thanks!
Has anyone confirmed yet if this is a mistake by quants or done purposely?
If this is a mistake and they decide to clawback the points will it help if transfer by points to a family member account before they clawback?
Qantas has changed the bonus from 24% to 20% so it it 40% total now.
I cant even get into the amex transfer rewards portal. This is a problem since yesterday.
The message reads “We apologize for the inconvenience. The system is currently unavailable. If you require assistance please call Membership Rewards Customer Service at 1-800-AXP-EARN.”
Can anyone help?
Got that as well. Open a new qantas account. That worked for me.
Hi Dan,
I’m a newby who has never really used credit cards the right way to maximize miles. I’d like to start over. I’ve read your posts about Chase cards, etc – for a humble person like me, what would be the first card to get? I can afford the AMEX Premium – and it seems like AMEX takes care of its members. Can you perhaps (or does a post from you already exist) advise a new comer on how to get started? Much thanks.
Can someone help.
I created a quantas frequent flyer account now what do I need to do with the Amex points so I can book Israel tickets this summer and how many points will I need for Business round trip
And with whom dinI book the actual ticket
Thank you
I’m a bit scared it won’t work, so I first did the 500 points to start out the initial offers Qantas is giving out. If it works on the first 500 is it safe to say the bonus will be possible again on another try?
Transferred on Tuesday from Amex and had the Qantas 20% arrive in account just now. Thanks Dan.
How long does it take for Qantas to add the additional points?
I transferred Amex points on Wednesday, but i did not get the additional 20% yet…
Up to a week.
Did you get your extra 20% bonus points from Qantas?
Yes.
I got it on Saturday.
Thanks @Dan
Is this still working ?
Still working??
Also, is this extra 20% bonus from Qantas limited to only one time? Or have people transfered multiple times and still get the additional bonus?
Yes.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=104196.msg2105460#msg2105460
I transferred a few days ago and got the 20% but I still did not receive the second 20% that Qantas is supposedly adding on top. I did this as a test before transferring all my AMEX points.
Any trick to getting the second 20%?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/qantas-killed-44-transfer-bonus/
Could I book w an extended layover to create a multicity trip? Would this work for multicity in the first place?
Is el al the only place worth using Qantas points?
Can I please recieve a picture of the email? Qantus asked me to clarify this email
Thanks,
Hi Dan,
Is it still working? The 44% bonus?