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The Starwood card is an excellent card for general spending. You can use just a couple thousand points for free hotel nights or transfer points into the mileage programs of dozens of airlines with a 25% transfer bonus. Click here to read all about the various ways to redeem your Starpoints and Marriott points.
To make a mileage transfer just login to your Starwood account at SPG.com. If you have never made an account at SPG.com you may need to set one up. Locate your SPG number on the Starwood AMEX statement where it lists how many points you earned in the past month and for the year. Then you can setup an SPG.com account. Click here to transfer Starpoints into airline miles. Note that transfers can take a few days to complete.
You can also transfer Starpoints into Marriott points at a 1:3 ratio.
Marriott has their own airline transfer option and an excellent miles+nights redemption option. You can read more about Marriott’s lucrative miles+nights travel packages here.
Many DansDeals readers love using their points for travel to Israel, so here are some tips and well as a guide to how many Starpoints you would need.
Tips for finding saver award availability:
Award tickets to Israel are always tough, though that’s a function of it being an expensive route to fly compared to the distance of the flight.
1. Check availability at least daily (if not more often) as award seats can come and go very quickly.
2. Be willing to connect in Europe for much better availability. That may mean booking an award with a stopover in Europe or booking 2 separate awards from the US to Europe and Europe to Israel. Or it can mean using miles to get to Europe and then looking for a flight on a low cost carriers from Europe to Israel for a cheap paid flight.
3. If you are ready to fly on a whim airlines often open up saver awards the day of or the day before a flight. Otherwise a month in advance is a typical sweet spot.
4. Realize that not all partners will be displayed online and you need to do your own research on partner sites and/or call to find partner availability. For example AA.com won’t show Cathay flights, BA.com won’t show Aer Lingus flights, etc.
5. Airline search engines are only so powerful. If you are flying from somewhere besides NYC just search from NYC-Tel Aviv instead of from Los Angeles to Tel Aviv. You can always piece together an award by searching for Los Angeles-NYC separately then NYC-Tel Aviv, especially if you are willing to have a long connection, change airports in NYC, or are willing to stay overnight in NYC.
6. The same goes for tickets from NYC. Search from other gateways, like Toronto, and piece together the flights to get there afterward. For example be willing to use Avios to get to Toronto and then use United miles to fly from Toronto-Tel Aviv, etc. Consider searching from NYC to European cities and piece together an award from Europe to Israel. You may find availability from NYC to London and then from Paris to Tel Aviv but a computer would never put that open jaw ticket together. Instead you can check out London and Paris on the way to Tel Aviv. Sometimes you can even save miles by doing that!
7. Find award availability before transferring miles. Once they’re transferred they can’t be reversed!
8. Need help? You can post your travel dates and which miles you have in this DDF thread and ask for help. Consider offering a monetary or mileage reward to the forum member that can come up with the best award ticket to meet your needs and you may find that suggestions will come flooding in!
Airlines that fly nonstop from North America to Israel that can be booked via Starpoints:
- Air Canada from Montreal or Toronto (bookable via Star Alliance airlines)
- Delta from JFK (bookable via Skyteam airlines)
- El Al from Boston, JFK, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark, and Toronto
- United from Newark or San Francisco (bookable via Star Alliance airlines)
The rates in this post are for flights from NYC to Tel Aviv unless otherwise noted.
Rates listed in this post are in Starpoints and are for round-trip travel and are assuming that you maximize the 25% point bonus for transferring Starpoints in blocks of 20,000 points (which you may or may not be able to do depending on the number of passengers, so you may have leftover miles)
Star Alliance:
Nonstop flights from North America include Air Canada from Montreal or Toronto and United from Newark or San Francisco. These flights all have lie-flat business class seating and have no first class.
Star Alliance offers the best availability for flights to Israel by leaps and bounds. Besides for the nonstop flights from North America there are many options via Europe in coach, business, and first class worth looking into including Swiss via Zurich, Lufthansa via Frankfurt and Munich, Brussels via Brussels, Austrian via Vienna, Turkish via Istanbul, Singapore+Lufthansa via Frankfurt, Aegean via Athens, LOT via Warsaw, or a mix of carriers like United from Newark to one of dozens of European cities and a European carrier to Tel Aviv.
You can search for Star Alliance award availability on sites like United.com, Aeroplan.com, and ANA.co.jp. You’ll need create an account and login to use Aeroplan or ANA’s award search.
Note that Starpoint rates listed below are assuming that you maximize the 25% point bonus for transferring Starpoints in blocks of 20,000 points (which you may or may not be able to do depending on the number of passengers, so you may have leftover miles).
Rates listed below are for round-trip travel!
Using ANA miles, from 52,000 Starpoints.
- Miles required: 65K coach, 104K business, 195K first.
- Transfer Ratio via Starwood: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 ANA miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 52,000 Starpoints in coach, 83,200 Starpoints in business, or 156,000 Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K ANA plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards partner at a 1:1 ratio.
- Fuel surcharges: None on Air Canada or United awards.
- Mileage expiration: 36 months after they are earned regardless of activity.
- One-way awards: Not allowed.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes.
- Stopovers: 1 allowed.
- Changes/Cancellation: ANA allows free date changes. Cancellation results in a 3,000 mile penalty.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using Aegean miles, from 48,000 Starpoints.
- Miles required: 60K coach, 90K business, 120K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 ANA miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 48,000 Starpoints in coach, 72,000 Starpoints in business, or 96,000 Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: Not available.
- Other transfer partners: None.
- Fuel surcharges: None on Air Canada or United awards.
- Mileage expiration: You must earn 1 mile every 60 months from a paid flight to extend the validity of your miles.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes.
- Stopovers: Not allowed.
- Changes/Cancellation: 20 Euros.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using Air Canada Aeroplan miles, from 64,000 Starpoints.
- Miles required: 80K coach, 165K business, 230K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Aeroplan miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means the equivalent of 64,000 Starpoints in coach, 132,000 Starpoints in business, or 184,000 Starpoints in first. Note that there is currently an additional 25% transfer bonus, so 20,000 Starpoints=31,250 Aeroplan miles.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=120K Aeroplan plus 7 Marriott nights (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints)
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards partner at a 1:1 ratio.
- Fuel surcharges: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and TAP Portugal.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air India, Air New Zealand, Avianca, Brussels, COPA, Croatia, EVA, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, THAI, Turkish, and United. Minimal fuel surcharges for LOT. - Mileage expiration: Air Canada miles require activity every 12 months to keep them active.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes.
- Stopovers: Air Canada generously allows for 2 free stopovers, so you can check out 2 American, Asian, or European cities in addition to Tel Aviv for the same amount of miles!
- Changes/Cancellation: There is a C$100 charge to change or cancel an award ticket and an effective C$250 charge to cancel within 21 days of departure.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: Flat fee of just $50 in coach, $100 in business, and $125 in first.
- Note: Air Canada will end their official relationship with Aeroplan after 6/29/2020!
- Note: Aeroplan offers expanded award availability on Air Canada flights.
Using Singapore miles, from 72,000 Starpoints.
- Miles required: 90K coach, 138K business, 180K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Singapore miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means the equivalent of 72,000 Starpoints in coach, 110,400 Starpoints in business, or 144,000 Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K Singapore plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards, Chase Ultimate Rewards, and Citi ThankYou partner at a 1:1 ratio.
- Fuel surcharges: None on United and Singapore.
- Mileage expiration: 36 months after they are earned regardless of activity.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes.
- Stopovers: 1 free stopover
- Changes/Cancellation: $20 change fee, $30 cancellation fee. Effective 5/1 the change fee will be $50 and the cancellation fee will be $75.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
- Note: With Singapore miles you can fly on Singapore from JFK to Frankfurt in business or first(suites) class and then to Tel Aviv on Lufthansa, which you can’t do with other miles.
Using United miles, from 64K Starpoints:
- Miles required: 85K coach, 150K business on United, 170K business on partners, 180K first on United, 280K first on partners.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 18,667 Starpoints=56,000 Marriott points=25,000 United miles.
Or 90,000 Starpoints=270K Marriott points=132K United miles plus 7 nights in a Marriott hotel (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints) - Other transfer partners: Chase Ultimate Rewards at a 1:1 ratio.
- Fuel surcharges: None.
- Mileage expiration: United miles require activity every 18 months unless you have a United credit card.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Available most airlines.
- Stopovers: 1 free stopover within the region of the destination.
- Changes/Cancellation: $75 outside of 61 days, $125 within 60 days of a flight
- Expedite/Close-in fee: $75.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
- Note: With United miles you’ll never pay a fuel surcharge.
- Note: United cardholders and elites get expanded award availability on United flights when using United miles.
Miles & More Group (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss) from 48K Starpoints
- Miles required: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Lufthansa miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means rates starting at 48K Starpoints in coach, 84K Starpoints in business, or 136K Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K Singapore plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Fuel surcharges: Apply on all airlines except LOT.
- Mileage expiration: Miles expire 36 months after they are earned regardless of activity unless you have a Lufthansa credit card that you use every month.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes.
- Stopovers: 2 free stopovers and 2 open jaws allowed on a round-trip.
- Changes/Cancellation: There is a $60 charge to change or cancel an award ticket.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: None except for airport departure taxes.
- Children ages 2-11: Receive a 25% discount on the mileage requirement on Miles & More flights.
- Note: Miles & More offers expanded award availability on Lufthansa and Swiss business and first class.
OneWorld:
There are no nonstop OneWorld flights between North America and Tel Aviv. Connecting flights to Israel include BA via London, Finnair via Helsinki, Iberia via Madrid, and Royal Jordanian via Amman. BA availability is good, but has high fuel surcharges.
You can check OneWorld availability on incomplete sites such as AA.com, BA.com, Iberia.com, and Qantas.com. You’ll need create an account and login to use BA’s, Iberia’s or Qantas’ award search.
Using American miles, from 64,000 Starpoints.
- Miles required: 80K coach, 140K business, 230K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 AA miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 64,000 Starpoints in coach, 112,000 Starpoints in business, or 184,000 Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=120K Aeroplan plus 7 Marriott nights (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints)
- Fuel surcharges: Apply for flights on partners British Airways (very high) and Iberia (nominal).
- Mileage expiration: AA miles require activity every 18 months
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partner airline awards must be booked over the phone.
- Stopovers: Not allowed, but you can book 1 or 2 stopovers in Europe by paying for US-Europe and Europe-Middle East award for 42.5K off-peak coach or 50K peak coach each way.
- Changes/Cancellation: AA allows free date and routing changes, but changes to the origin or destination city or cancellation costs $150 for non-elites. If you cancel more than 1 ticket at a time the fee is just $25 after the $150 fee for the first ticket.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: $75 within 21 days for non-elites.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using BA Avios, from 44.8K Starpoints
- Avios required: 56K-69K coach, 140K-162.5K business, 221K-260K first.
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards partner at a 1K:800 ratio, Chase Ultimate Rewards partner at a 1:1 ratio.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 BA miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means rates starting at 44,800 Starpoints in coach, 112,000 Starpoints in business, or 176,800 Starpoints in first. Currently, British Airways is offering an additional 35% transfer bonus, so 20K Starpoints will transfer into 33,750 Avios!
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=120K Aeroplan plus 7 Marriott nights (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints). Currently, British Airways is offering a 35% transfer bonus, so 90K Starpoints will transfer into a week in a Marriott hotel plus 162K Avios!
- Fuel surcharges: Apply for all Trans-Atlantic flights except on Aer Lingus. One-way fuel surcharges are lower than round-trip surcharges.
You can drastically reduce fuel surcharges for travel on Iberia via Madrid by transferring your BA Avios into Iberia Avios. You must have your Iberia account open for 3 months before you can do such a transfer. - Mileage expiration: BA miles require activity every 36 months.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partners, like Aer Lingus and Alaska, are bookable via the phone only.
- Stopovers: Each leg costs additional mileage, but you can stopover at any connection city for as long as you want.
- Changes/Cancellation: $55.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None
- Infant fees: Instead of cash, BA charges just 10% of the adult mileage required on international segments.
- Note: More info on BA in this post.
Using JAL miles, from 40,000 Starpoints
- Miles required: 50K coach, 80K business, 115K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 JAL miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 40,000 Starpoints in coach, 64,000 Starpoints in business, or 92,000 Starpoints in first.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K Singapore plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Fuel surcharges: Apply on most airlines, but not on American or Royal Jordanian.
- Mileage expiration: 36 months after they are earned regardless of activity.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partners can be booked online, others are phone-only.
- Stopovers: 2 stopovers allowed.
- Changes/Cancellation: Free date changes. Other changes or cancellation results in a $25 penalty.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
- Using LAN kilometers, from 53.3K Starpoints
- Miles required: JFK-AMM-TLV: 112K coach/224K business, JFK-LHR-TLV: 154K coach/308K business/385K first.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=37,500 LAN kilometers. At a 1:1.875 ratio this means rates starting at 59.7K Starpoints in coach, 119.5K Starpoints in business, or 205.3K Starpoints in first.
- Fuel surcharges: None. LAN is the only airline with no fuel surcharges on BA awards.
- Mileage expiration: 36 months after they are earned unless you fly on a paid LAN flight.
- One-way awards: Not allowed
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partners can be booked online, others are phone-only.
- Stopovers: Each leg costs additional mileage, but you can stopover at any connection city for as long as you want.
- Changes/Cancellation: Changes are $75 or $150 within 21 days. Cancellation is $125 or $300 within 21 days.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using Alaska miles, from 40,000 Starpoints
- Miles required: 100K coach, 110K premium economy, 125K business, 140K first flying on Cathay Pacific via Hong Kong
Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Alaska miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 80,000 Starpoints in coach, 88,000 Starpoints in premium economy, 100,000 Starpoints in business, or 112,000 Starpoints in first. - Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=120K Aeroplan plus 7 Marriott nights (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints)
- Fuel surcharges: Doesn’t apply for travel on Cathay Pacific
- Mileage expiration: Alaska miles require activity every 24 months.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Cathay awards must be booked over the phone.
- Stopovers: 1 stopover allowed on one-way, 2 stopovers allowed on round-trip.
- Changes/Cancellation: Free outside of 61 days, $125 within 60 days of a flight
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None
Skyteam:
Delta is extremely stingy on nonstop saver award availability. You can try searching some Skyteam availability on Delta.com and AirFrance.com. Options to Israel besides Delta’s nonstop JFK flight are on Czech via Prague, KLM via Amsterdam, Air France via Paris, Aeroflot via Moscow, Alitalia via Athens or Rome, Tarom via Bucharest, and Air Europa via Madrid.
Using Alitalia miles, from 40,000 Starpoints.
- Miles Required: 50K coach, 80K business on Alitalia, 100K coach, 200K business on partners.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Alitalia miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 40K Starpoints in coach or 64K Starpoints in business on Alitalia or 80K Starpoints in coach or 160K Starpoints in business on partners.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K Singapore plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards partner at a 1:1 ratio
- Fuel surcharges: Apply on most airlines.
- Mileage expiration: All miles expire every January 31st.
- One-way awards: Allowed for a 20% premium over half the cost.
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partners can be booked online, others are phone-only.
- Stopovers: 1 allowed.
- Changes/Cancellation: Date changes are free, other changes incur a 5,000 mile or 55 Euro penalty. Cancellation is not allowed.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using Delta miles, from 64,000 Starpoints.
- Miles Required: 70K-210K coach, 170K-600K business.
Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Delta miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means 56,000-160,000 Starpoints in coach or 136,000-360,000 Starpoints in business. - Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=120K Aeroplan plus 7 Marriott nights (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints)
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards partner at a 1:1 ratio
- Fuel surcharges: Apply on select partners but generally won’t apply to/from Israel.
- Mileage expiration: None.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Some partners can be booked online, others are phone-only.
- Stopovers: Not allowed.
- Changes/Cancellation: There is a $150 charge to change or cancel an award ticket. No changes or cancellations are allowed within 3 days of the flight.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
Using Flying Blue (Air France/KLM) miles, from 20,000 Starpoints
- Miles Required: 25K-37.5K coach during a promo period, 50K coach otherwise, 62.5K-93,750 business during a promo period, 125K business otherwise.
- Transfer Ratio: 20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Flying Blue miles. At a 1:1.25 ratio this means rates starting at 20,000 Starpoints in coach or 50,000 Starpoints in business for a promo award. For regular tickets and partner ticket 40,000 Starpoints per ticket in coach or 100,000 Starpoints per ticket in business.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 90,000 Starpoints=85K Singapore plus 7 Marriott nights.
- Other transfer partners: AMEX Membership Rewards, Chase Ultimate Rewards, and Citi ThankYou partner at a 1:1 ratio
- Fuel surcharges: Apply on all airlines except Delta.
- Mileage expiration: Flying Blue miles expire 24 months unless you credit a Skyteam flight to Flying Blue.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes
- Stopovers: None.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: 10% of full fare.
El Al:
El Al has good award availability, but when you book awards via their own Matmid program you need to pay fuel surcharges. You can now use Qantas points to book award travel on El Al without fuel surcharges.
Using Qantas miles, from 74,000 Starpoints
- Miles Required: 84K coach, 126K premium economy, 156K business from NYC-Tel Aviv. See rates for other cities here.
- Transfer Ratio via Marriott: 23,333 Starpoints=70,000 Marriott points=17,500 Qantas miles.
Or 90,000 Starpoints=270K Marriott points=85K Qantas miles plus 7 nights in a Marriott hotel (7 nights can be booked and cancelled for a refund of 15K Starpoints, for an effective transfer ratio of 75K:85K). That would make the cost about 74K Starpoints per ticket in coach, 111K in premium economy, or 137K Starpoints per ticket in business. - Other transfer partners: Citi ThankYou partner at a 1:1 ratio
- Fuel surcharges: None on El Al
- Mileage expiration: Qantas miles require activity every 24 months.
- One-way awards: Allowed for half the amount of a round-trip.
- Online partner airline award booking: Yes
- Stopovers: None allowed.
- Expedite/Close-in fee: None.
- Infant fees: Free
- Note: Read more information in this post.
Have you redeemed miles for travel to Israel? Which methods have you used?
How many miles are required if booking by Asisana?
Is it possible to use Delta miles to Israel without spending tons of miles?
Not really, Delta miles are one of the worst currencies
I spoke to Marriot It takes 4-6 weeks to transfer from Marriot to Qantas
That’s not true. I did it in less than a week.
Can anyone tell me how to transfer SPG or AMEX Platinum to Qantas. They both don’t give such an option.
You need to transfer from SPG to Marriott and Marriott to Qantas.
The transfer ratio will improve in August.
Alitalia NYC-TLV – looks like they drastically raised the amount of mileage needed
Does JAL fly NYC-TLV?
Hi Dan
Sorry this is to complicated for me
Can you also post for us simpletons much more detailed info
You are a pro
I’m a novice
But would love to use miles to go Israel
I can never really figure out what to do
Thanks
Chaim m
Thx for this amazing post! What does availability depend on with each airline? For example Aegean seems the cheapest but is it harder to find availability than Aeroplan… etc.
If Aeroplan or United have availability (for an airline besides for Air Canada or United respectively), then Aegean does as well.
You just may need to call Aegean to book it as their search engine isn’t as robust as Aeroplan’s or United’s.
I tried that but Aegean answered that they dont always make everything available for the partner. They try to lock them for their own customers. If you have any solutions please post. Thank you
Sry to keep bothering you. But I’m wondering more specifically, when looking for a united flight on either of those (A3 or AC) is availability going to be based on saver award availability? Is there a way of seeing on united, that there would be availability booking through partners? I remember your advanced post about united availability codes, & wondering if we can use those codes to see what availability will be like with partners. TIA
I’m getting emails from Flying Blue about the ‘wonderful’ changes they are making to their award program. Do you have any info on this? Will it basically amount to a massive devaluation?
They have a calculator for the new program here:
https://www.flyingblue.com/calculator/spend.html
Seems just fine for TLV, but we’ll see.
Assuming a stop over – Which airlines offer a business class lay flat seat for the flight from Europe to Israel??
Off the top of my head, BA, Iberia, and Swiss have that.
Air Europa evening 1x daily 787 so flatbed option
Dan, you’re awesome! Thank you! I really appreciate all the work you put in to save us some gelt!
Thanks 🙂
can we have a post how to book the flying blue stopover?
Call Flying Blue.
I thought they eliminated the stopover for FB?
would you credit certain oneworld flights to qantas?
If you want to use them for El Al, sure.
Stopovers: Air Canada generously allows for 2 free stopovers, so you can check out 2 American, Asian, or European cities in addition to Tel Aviv for the same amount of miles!
how do you do this? can you do this online while booking? or you book direct and then call to add the stops?
Call to book.
i have some matmid points i got for a mishap with Elal. what would you say is the best way to use them?
Um, for a flight to Israel?
Isn’t Aegean 1:1? How would I be able to get +25% transferring to Aegean miles?
“Rates listed in this post are in Starpoints and are for round-trip travel and are assuming that you maximize the 25% point bonus for transferring Starpoints in blocks of 20,000 points (which you may or may not be able to do depending on the number of passengers, so you may have leftover miles)”
Correct, I see that many airlines offer the 25% but Aegean is 1:1
Everything is 1:1 with a 25% bonus for every 20K transferred.
Got it, thanks!
If you are using Starpoints for a business class ticket on StarAlliance, no reason to use anyone other than Aegean. They are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than others I have used them multiple times and they’re service is very good. Obviously if using AMEX you have to go with Singapore or ANA, etc…
One change on Alitalia though. They charge 48K miles in business class one way, but if you book a round trip, you get a discount…they only charge 80K
Alitalia NYC-TLV – looks like they drastically raised the amount of mileage needed they are asking 100k for economy round trip
Read the post.
thanks dan can you get spg points ,after linking your delta accounts, on paid klm and air france flights credited to delta sky miles?
No, Delta flights only.
thanks
After searching for non-stop flights the next stop is always Air France flying blue. They have an abundance of availability always. 25k points (20k Starpoints) one way is low and fuel charges are moderate.
Can you sum it up and let us know what is the cheapest way to get to Israel from NYC? Least number of spg points…
Why don’t you read the whole post like everyone else ?
He worked hard writing up this whole post the least you can do is read it yourself without asking for him to summarize what he wrote.
Now if you didn’t understand it after reading it that’s one thing.
we should get a bunch of talmidim to make a sikum of what he said like the people that put together the liutay sichos in hebrew and put a sikum before each sicha
wow, i will need to read it a few times .. THANK YOU AS ALWAYS